Originally broadcast January 8, 2016
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Thanks to the CBC for teaching something that someone picks up through experience. I pay for what an item is worth for; I don't pay more because someone else thinks it is worth more. You must be a special smart to think that the same store that sells at two different prices are also identical in quality. I buy a lot from Gap Outlet stores, and I always pay below the fair value for a similar item at other places. I did not notice any big differences in qualities when I did the homework by myself.
The woman melodramatically angry about Winners is the type of person to blame everyone else for her own ignorance. A quick look around inside big name resellers will give you not one, but several items that still have the original price tag and the reseller's tag that will display the same price. Resellers like Winners, Marshall's, etc. purchase failed, dated products from major retailers in bulk that often do not include the original price tag and therefore must make estimates. We really can't call ourselves conscious consumers and regard any element of human error as a "scam" just to get on TV.
This lady's investigation is inaccurate! She only did a few companies! Some outlet stores have a combination of factory exclusive and retail products at lower prices. That's why some companies have a return policy to only return products to outlets! While some companies have a return policy you can return products to either a outlet or retail! Do your research!
I work in retail, and I know for a fact that we do send our "rejects" to the outlet store. When I say reject, I don't mean lesser quality, but just items that don't sell very well. It's possible that there are also items made specifically made for outlets but the salesperson from Banana Republic wasn't lying when he said that there are some of the same styles/quality.
Stitches, liners and zippers are the best way to know . I always knew that . I have both main and outlet bags . Always can tell which bag is from where . Also that's the best way to find counterfeit merchandise . Second way is the material of the main body of the bag . But this is not so obvious in some cases .
A example of how a outlet market is work , a $15 cost product which is completed at $7 and it's priced to $35 and discounted to $22. Business strategy. I can buy you a jeans pant worth of $7 in local. Just think how much those local vendors are earning. They are earning the half of the price or more. Where your country selling that pant to $25.
How is it unfair to the consumers? If a business puts in more work to create something extremely better, why wouldn't that cost more? You are getting what you pay for. What IS unfair is a person's expectation of high-quality product -which requires more time, more labor, more materials - for *less* money. That's literally not how business works.
Quality is not important, it is not important whether the brand is original. For 99% of people who buy in these places the most important thing is that on the bag, on the glasses, on the jeans is known and clearly visible - a large gold brands. And of course they have money for it. Marketing has done brainwashing and tie are the effects. You can see with embarrassment ladies 140 150 cm growth from countries where the main means of transport are animals or bicycles that proudly parade with many shopping bags of very well-known brands. Next to it are former owners of these elephants and bikes and dream of buying a hat Tommy Hilfiger - and the biggest problem is a very small badge.
These are changes and generational and sociological. If you do such a policy - it is easier to manage the society. Consent to marijuana trade - what is it? Exactly the same. Russia has been drinking its nation vodka for hundreds of years and management. Canada will give marijuana and it will have a society that is easy to rule. If a lot of people are running and looking for where to buy a cheap handbag of a well known brand, then there is no time to think what is good and what is bad.
Not today, not tomorrow but in 5-10 years on the street there will be those who have just used marijuana, others who are lining up for 5 dollars adidas sports shoes, and the rest will walk with a small screen and look for pokemon.
It's worth to see and understand more.
Wait, did these people really believe that they were getting the same product for less cost? Because that's so illogical and unrealistic. The outlets are not a magical place where the rules of a market economy don't exist. You're paying less for a reason.
People seem naive obviously is not 100% same quality but they are not knock offs they just might have a little problem (most of the time only visible to quality control)so they can be sold at full price but still good and they do last.
I do t get what is retail or outlets XD
For me is all shops, i hate shopping so i alwayd go to a place where i can find most the clothes shops together and then i just go and see prices, then i go, try and buy what i need, thatd if possible at home i see what kind of clothes they have. In the end i buy the end season stock at a low price and just go home. I dont look theyr brands or high quality because i know i will be changing my clothes in 3 years or so, ir maybe i will move so i hate taking things with me so i donate most of my clothes and carry 60kg of clothes (winter + summer + shoes) XD
I am so thankful that you put out this information. I have learned so much, not only on this subject but others that you have posted. I am not Canadian, but even us Texans are willing and able to learn.
I do not feel rip of because i do not by from retailer - because i do not want pay for small difference double money, even for outlet staff i do not want to pay - I love thrift stores - there is real price for overpriced garbage
how is this deceptive when you can tell the quality before you buy? Your paying a fraction of the price, for a fraction of the quality, why is anyone surprised at all. If you think a sweater feels thin or a bags leather isn't heavy enough, don't buy it...
I but at Outlets when possible, I feel like the quality is still the same. The clothes and jeans last me as long as a retail place. Also I love the Michael Kors outlet, my purses and wallets have lasted and my watch is still good. American Eagle and Bath & Body have amazing outlets ♥️♥️♥️
8 YRS OLD EXPIRED SKIN CARE AS ''REGULAR'' WINNER'S PRODUCT BEING SOLD.... DAILY.
Winners is also knowingly selling expired skin care product at this present time in Canada. I have proof that, in the past (I contacted the brands in question: Elizabeth Arden, Lierac, etc.), I purchased a few (I mean, a lot...) skin care products at winners that were around 8 YEARS OLD. There's no law in Canada regarding shelf life expiry date (expiry before opening) if the compagnie sets the shelf life of an item to more then a certain period of time (I believe more then 24 months). That said, it is not that products ''never expire'', it means that compagnies have no obligation to print an shelf life date to products that they are ''expecting'' to be good for more then a certain period of time (again, I believe it is 24 months) without being open. In result, you can easily being purchasing and using skin care products with actives ingredients who turned very bad and, therefore, ending up damaging your skin (and your wallet). When I called and emailed winners about this, I had the same answer over and over ''we are currently looking into this'', until they just stopped replying (I did this because I had a very bad skin reaction to a product). When I called some of the skin care brand that I purchased from winners in the past to know when the products were manufactured and if it was safe to use (8 yrs old products from Elizabeth Arden and 7 years old product from Lierac) both brands told me that they were ''never selling products to winners'' and Lierac rep told me that there was a ''grey market'' happening in the beauty industry were some products were sold to winners and other ''sale-retailers'' from some third illegitimate dark parties. Were Elizabeth Arden failed to tell me that those 8 yrs old product shouldn't be used (they literally told me they had NO expiry date if not open), Lierac's rep told me that skin care product that old shouldn't be sold at all, neither use onto face, etc.
So.... I guess, what I'm saying is that we need to have better laws regarding the longevity of beauty products in order to protect consumers and Canadians citizens, and, in the meanwhile, avoid purchasing beauty products from winners.
I apologized for any grammatical/ spelling mistakes. Please note that I'm french.
It's simple ... there are people who don't wear clothes because they like them, but just to show off ... so even if it's just for the outlet and the quality is bad, they don't care because they get it cheaper while still wearing the trademark others think is expensive ... I even know people who go check on prices at stores, and buy IMITATIONS, but saying proudly they purchased it from the original store at the actual original's price ... People are sick! Simple 😑
So winners is owned by TJ maxx here in the U.S. I used to work at TJ Maxx. One of the things they did was block wifi and network signals (something ikea also does) so that people wouldn't check Amazon. The majority of the products are repeats and people don't notice because we had to mix them up and make them look a little messy. Sometimes a shirt that came in a couple months before would come back, as well as other items. Shoppers think they are getting something rare but most of the products are made for these low price retailers.
J. crew? Banana Republic? You're first mistake is looking at brands that are cheap to start with (BR is an Old Navy brand). Second, it's not a 'rip off' to get a cheaper product at a lower price. Those who feel ripped off are they who couldn't tell the difference in quality to begin with: they needed someone to tell them the difference.
I've bought things at Nordstrom Rack, and I know some of the products I bought are just old stock because I know the specific brand I was buying. I might have been able to get some of these items cheaper when they were on sale direct from the company, but at that time, I didn't know the company was going to change their sizing and I just planned to buy stuff from the newest Seasons like I use to. So the prices weren't necessarily the lowest price ever, but I wanted specifically older Season stuff with older sizing.
I’ve honestly never come across anything from an outlet store that has anything wrong with it. Certainly nothing to complain about. I don’t care where you go, you’re always going to be paying much, much more than the company paid to produce the item. I always go for what I think is worth the money it’s being sold for. Forget the “brand” or the “compare at” prices.
What's really ironic is that the high end knock-offs are better quality than the made-for-outlet items. Have a friend who works at authenticating items for resale and can't stop talking about that. A factory in China will make legitimate mid-end (designer) bags by day and higher-end (luxury) knockoffs by night. The quality of those are incredible.
So rather than suffering from other companies manufacturing a knockoff of their product, these companies decided to make their own knockoff and sell it at the lower price. Hmm, quiet a business decision really.
Really? Does anyone really think they're getting the same quality at the outlets? You get what you pay for..consumers go there specifically because they just wanna pay less. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the quality is less at the outlets. It just depends how you define value for your $$$
If Hideous Hilary the "expert" were to look at herself in the mirror, I'm sure she would start buying her clothes at the army surplus store. What a horror in that skirt! I hope she's happy with her longer-lasting wallets! YUK!!! As for the rest of the Brand-seeking world, you are just lambs to the slaughter, and I feel sorry for you.
The very notion of "taking a break" from the one you love is often times misinterpreted as a somewhat cowardly way of ending the relationship without stating so bluntly for public consumption. In fact, what some refer to as ones "need for space from the partner" does appear to be a legitimate cry for just that -- space . It turns out that its not just men who crave solitude and withdraw into that dark room to spend quiet time inside their so-called man cave .
In this day and age, the traditional stigma that has long accompanied a couples decision to take a break from their relationship is gradually fading as a thing of the past. Its become increasingly clear that deciding to give each other space does not necessarily equal breaking up in the direct sense of the term. At times, it can be a healthy option -- that is, of course, depending on how it is that one or both of the partners plan to spend their individual time apart.
Based on my humble experience, Ive come to discover eight simple advantages that go hand in hand with this difficult yet (more often than not) mutually beneficial decision for two people to step aside and regroup.
If the good old AAA (Apology, Affection and a promise of Action) fails to work, and a quick fix a la "sorry" and "I love you" turns out to be nothing more but a momentary band-aid, you know taking a break may just be the answer.
Stepping aside and finding yourself can be vital, especially after years of coexisting in a committed, long-term relationship.
Give yourself and your partner the opportunity to let your heart(s) grow fonder. Ever miss the feeling of actually missing your other half? An emotion well worth revisiting, thats for sure!